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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 27, 2011 22:15:09 GMT -5
Lol, how'd you guess abou the other non-story/movie stuff correctly then?? XD
Lol, they don't need to add Camicazi since she's pretty much Astrid XD. Unless they just add her as a separate character anyway. If they added Stirmfly only, then they should do something like in your FIC where she becomes a replacement to Astrid's Nadder XD. And Alvin, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to add a powerful man that's un-killable XD.
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Post by mrjop2 on Aug 28, 2011 3:27:20 GMT -5
Don't judge likability of Alvin by my story, I haven't fully read the stories myself, so I'm not trying to emulate his personality from the books perfectly. I like my villians intense and scary. LOL
Chapter 8
The witch observed things unfold from a safe distance. She was curious to see that the dragon had yet to make contact with the Vikings. Perhaps, there was still a level of distrust in the dragon than she had supposed. However, the dragon’s distrust was not enough to resolve her curiosity.
A large male Viking hid in the shadows as he approached the witch. “How's our guests doing?”
“They’re well on their way, but we have an interesting development.”
“What is it, old woman?”
“The dragon is watching them. She seems to be... curious... about the strangers.”
“You mean… ”
“Yes, it’s her. She seems to be overcoming her fear to study these Vikings.”
“It’s probably because of the boy. Hiccup the Horrendous has a way with dragons,” The Viking replied. “Let’s see if we can get the dragon to reveal itself to them.”
The witch knew what he wanted from her; he was her son, after all, even if he refused to accept the fact. Her son did not believe much of anything, whether it be in the gods, or in the giants, whom she served. He held to no spiritual beliefs whatsoever; only hatred for the Roman Empire kept him going. Hiccup the Horrendous and the Vikings of the Berk were the key to bringing the Romans to their knees.
She raised her walking sticks into the air and began her chant. The large Viking stepped in front of her, interrupting her spell before she could get too far. “Oh, and I don’t need to remind you that I don’t want Hiccup the Horrendous harmed. The others are… expendable.”
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“Okay, everyone on your feet; rest time’s over!” Stoick announced.
All the young Vikings stood to their feet. It was a little harder for Hiccup with his artificial foot to get up. The moment he tried to stand up, the wooden frame cracked. “Just great!” He was hoping that the leg would hold up until he got back home to Berk, but that was not going to happen.
Astrid saw the situation with his leg and offered him her hand. “Need a hand?”
“Thanks,” He said, taking her hand.
She helped him up onto his feet, releasing the strain on wooden frame. “Are you gonna be able to walk?”
“It should be fine to walk on, for now,” Hiccup replied, trying to convince himself more than her. In actuality, he had no idea how much more it was going to be able to last.
Toothless stood up, when he saw everyone else standing up. An unexpected noise caused his ears to twitch. The dragon sniffed the air and smelt danger coming towards them at an alarming rate. He stiffened his body, bore his teeth, and growled in the direction the smell was coming from.
“What’s wrong with him? Tuffnut asked.
“There’s danger nearby?” Hiccup scouted the area intently, knowing that Toothless was never wrong about these kinds of things. The dragon had a very sharp sense of smell.
Stoick already had his ax in hand, knowing Toothless almost as well as his son. He knew this was a possibility, but after having that long stretch of calmness, he had hoped it would have stayed that way. Yes, these kids had proven themselves in grave situations, but they did not have their dragons this time. They still needed much more practice when it came to handling weapons. Astrid and Bitwolf were probably the only ones who were competent enough to use their weapons. As for Hiccup… that went without saying.
Stoick stepped out and focused his vision through the forest, trying to see anything that could be lurking. Lunging at him from a bush was a wild beast, unlike anything he had ever seen. He used the handle of his ax to hold the beast back by pressing it into its throat. The beast snapped wildly at his face. It had large jagged teeth and a lizard-like forked tongue. The creepy thing was: the beast had no eyes.
Stoick gritted his teeth as he used the handle of his ax to throw the four-legged creature to the ground. Now, with a better view of the monster, he could see that it was a dragon class creature, but with no wings. Its lower jaw and belly were black while the rest of his scaly-hide was purple. Tiny horns went down from its head all the way down to the tip of its tail. Four more of these creatures came out of the forest, and pranced around the group of Viking.
“Skullions!” Bitwolf snarled as he kept his doubled-headed ax in front of him. “These pack animals are predators through-and-through. They cannot see or hear, but they've got a very keen sense of smell. They have one extended claw on both of their front paws which they use to slash the tendons in the legs of their prey. Once they fall to the ground, they eat them alive.”
“I don’t have a good feeling about this,” Fishlegs moaned.
A Skullion lunged at Toothless, but the dragon swung his tale, hitting the beast several feet away. Another one ventured to stalk him, but all he had to do to make the creature reconsider was to breathe a puff of flames in its direction.
“Let’s do this, Toothless,” Hiccup said reaching for the saddle.
Before he had the chance to climb up, a Skullion pounced on top of him, pinning his shoulders to the ground. Its extended claw on each foot came within inches of both of his ears. Hiccup looked up into the creature face. It's drool dripped from between its pointy teeth. Since it was unable to see, it smelled him to confirm that it had its pray pinned to the ground.
Before it had the chance to begin feeding, Toothless grabbed the nap of its neck with his jaws; his muffled, furious growls made it abundantly clear that he was enraged. With the snap of his neck, the Night Fury slammed the Skullion into the trunk of a tree. It let out a loud yelp, and desperately crawled away from the dragon.
Snotlout was keeping the monsters away with a large hammer. Any Skullion that dared tried for his ankles got a whack in the head. Bitwolf screamed like a rabid dragon as he charged at one of the beasts. He swung his ax wildly, that no creature would dare to consider a frontal assault on him.
A lone Skullion came leaping out of the forest, behind the Vikings. Astrid barley had the time to duck under the lunge, but the creature ended up knocking the ax out of her hands and out of her reach. She had no choice but to risk breaking from the group and retrieve her weapon.
The only advantage they had over the pack of Skullions was that they were keeping together. While grouped together, it made it difficult for predators to kill them. That was why beasts like the Skullions tended to try to disperse them, so they could pick-off a weaker, more susceptible prey. Of course, without a weapon to defend herself with, she was already in grave danger.
She took off for her weapon, hoping to get it and get back before they caught her. It was only after she gotten her weapon back in hand, that she realized the beasts had done this all intentionally; she had fallen for a trap. Five new beasts leaped from their hiding places, nearly knocking Hiccup and Snotlout to the ground in the process, and attacked Astrid.
“Hiya!” Astrid swung her ax, aggressively, in front of her. The attack only served as a delay attack, and it even made things worse for her, causing them to start to spread around her. She could not let them completely surround her, or she was as good as dead.
She ran into the forest as fast as she could, as the five Skullions chased after her. “Astrid!” Hiccup shouted, wanting to come to her rescue, but it was taking. Toothless everything he had to keep him safe. The monsters were doing everything to prevent him from having the time to climb up onto his dragon's back. More Skullions had joined the fight, and there were now eight of them encircling the group of Vikings.
Astrid dashed through the woods, dodging trees until she accidentally tripped on a rock sticking out of the ground. She rushed to get back onto her feet, but by then, it was already too late. The beasts had fully surrounded her.
They circled around her, preparing themselves for the kill. With Astrid’s nerves on full alert, she kept the blade of her ax in front her, looking in all directions for the first beast to make its move. She was ready to go down fighting; if she had to die, she was going to take as many of them with her as she could. Yet, there was still a tiny part of her that prayed to Odin or Thor to help her survive this.
The dragon-like monsters could wait no longer. The first Skullion lunged for her only to have a dragon come out of nowhere and stomp him into the ground. The dark-blue dragon lifted her paw and swatted the struggling beast away. From that point on, the dragon had the full attention of five of the lizard-beasts.
Astrid stood there, frozen in-place with confusion and terror. She had no idea what this dragon’s intentions were, or where it came from; but there was always the possibility that it may be coming for her next. She watched as the dragon, which looked slightly bigger than Toothless, take on all five creatures.
A Skullion leaped for the dragon’s throat, but it raised its right, sharp claw and not only swatted it way, but left deep gashes down its rib cage. The dragon stared down at the beasts with curled lips and bared fangs. It let out a terrifying roar out of extreme anger.
The dragon unleashed a massive blanket of flames at the smaller beasts, causing them to scatter to a safe distance. One of them managed to sneak close to the dragon’s left ankle, and it used one of its extended claw to slash it.
The dragon roared in pain, and reacted violently towards the foolish beast who slashed at its ankle. It snapped at the Skullion, grabbing it by the back, wither her teeth. It hoisted its neck up and lifted the defenseless beast high off the ground. With a whip of its long, extended neck, it threw the beast deep within the forest.
One of the Skullions made a defeated sounding howl. The four others heard the cry of their alpha, and obeyed. They retreated into the forest, in search for easier pray.
The dragon posed ready for more battle if the call of retreat proved to be a trick. When the beasts disappeared within the forest, it realized that this was no trick; they had given up. The dragon turned to face Astrid, still growling as it stepped towards her.
Astrid was terrified, and did not know what to do. The very dragon that took on five Skullions was now setting its sight on her. She contemplated whether it was sound strategy to attack first or let the dragon make its move. A year ago, she would not think twice about attacking first, but she had come to learn a lot about dragons, thanks to Hiccup.
Deciding not to provoke the dragon, she waited to see what the it would do. It came up to her cautiously until it was at lunging distance. Instead of attacking, she closed her mouth, sat on its hind legs and tilted its head curiously. The dragon smacked her mouth around as if it had a bad taste in her mouth. When on all fours, the dragon was only a little bigger than Toothless, but sitting on its hind legs, the dragon appeared very tall; she, barley, came up to its chest. The structure of the dragon’s face made it almost obvious that the dragon was female.
Before her very eyes, the dragon’s scales began to change colors from a dark blue to a golden-yellow. The dragon looked down at her with a friendly curiosity. What kind of dragon was this?
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At one second, Hiccup and the others were fighting for their lives, and in the next, the Skullions were retreating back into the forest. All the Vikings were looking at each other with bewilderment, but Hiccup was more worried about Astrid.
“Astrid!” Hiccup ran in the direction where he had seen Astrid run; Toothless followed closely behind.
“Hiccup?” He could hear his father’s concern for his running from the group, but the only thing that mattered to him was to find Astrid and help if there was still time.
“Astrid?” Hiccup called out, praying to the gods that she was still alive.
“Over here,” her voice answered back, not too far up ahead.
A heavy burden instantly lifted from his shoulders the moment that he heard her voice; she was still alive. He ran in the direction her voice had been, and found her standing there with her ax on the ground. Sitting there in front of her was a good-sized golden dragon. “Uh— what’s this?”
“I think she’s friendly,” Astrid replied, still not willing to take the chance and go to pet the dragon, yet.
Toothless stood beside Hiccup and became immediately curious about the dragon. The fact that he had not growled or sensed danger told him that the dragon did seem to be friendly. When the other Vikings caught up to Hiccup and Toothless, they were quickly entranced by the docile dragon sitting in front of Astrid, as well. The dragon looked at all of them, including Toothless, and remained passive, as if it already knew that it could trust all of them.
“What kind of dragon is that?” Snotlout asked, not expecting anyone to really know.
“I’ve never seen a dragon like this before,” Bitwolf replied, perplexed by this beautiful dragon in front of them.
“I’m a Mood dragon.”
The shock and awe on everyone’s faces could not be any more apparent. That feminine voice came from the dragon’s mouth. “Did that dragon just talk?” Tuffnut finally managed to speak first through the shock he was experiencing.
The golden dragon stood up on all four legs and looked directly at Tuffnut, who had asked the question. “Yes, I can speak Norse as well as Dragoneese.” The dragon looked towards Astrid. “I’m Stormfly.”
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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 28, 2011 10:29:37 GMT -5
Lol I'm not judging you XD. I'm simply saying that it wouldn't be so nice if there were a villain in the movie that cant be killed XD. If they add him, he has to die or something in the same movie . And Srry, I was gonna post the errors last night but I started feeling sick :/. And I think I won't even be able to do so today, but I'll try. ^^
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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 28, 2011 14:10:49 GMT -5
EDIT: This is a double post. I posted another post earlier, just so you can know XD. Ok so now, here's my review on chapter 8. I'll see when I can post the errors of the 3 chapters ^^: So, I kinda don't get it. By what Alvin and the Witch were talking at the beginning, are they like controlling Stormfly? Or they just know that she's gonna do something that will help them? XD. Lol, i really don't think the Skulions or whatever are even dragons . It IS quite amazing that they don't have eyes nor ears and yet they can survive XD. So, a mood dragon? Let me guess, does that mean that Stormfly's scales change color according to her moods? And now, I'm bot really sure about the fact that she's bigger than Toothless. I thought about the whole thing that they're gonna fall in love and whatnot, and I actually think it's alright with me now; as long as they don't have children XD. But, she being bigger than him is just a bit weird. It's almost like a man gets married to a woman older and bigger than him. I find that weird, and I think it would be WAY better if Stormfly was either smaller or the same size as him. And not being older than him XD. Really, even my sister says that it's kinda weird that a man marries someone older/bigger than a woman XD. I'll have to think about that to see if I'll be alright with it . Lol, it's nice how she's all like "I can speak Norse and Dragonese." WTF is she doing speaking English than??? XD LOL. It's almost like in the movie Hiccup is reading the dragon book in English when all the letters are in Norse XD. Can't wait for chapter 9! ^^
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Post by mrjop2 on Aug 28, 2011 20:44:53 GMT -5
LOL, I think they would have to killk Alvin off after one movie. Movies are different than books. When a author find a villain that people like, they can keep brining him back as the book series continues. There are currently nine books in the series, and is still going. There are authors out there that sticks to a single series. My favorite author, Brad Thor, has written 10 books in his short career so far, and they all are a continuation with the same hero. I am guessing HTTYD is like that for the author.
There would be no way of making that many movies and not start to lose the fan base. I think people want different things from the media. When it comes to books, they love continuation, and to see the a very popular villain to keep coming back to cause problems. In movies, I think people are more interested in fresh ideas. In most cases, I think people can only handle a villain returning for up to three films (Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Etc). Of course, Harry Potter seems to be different if you ask the fans of the movies (which I am not).
I don't think Alvin will see more than one, maybe two movies, and if he is in two movies.
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Post by mrjop2 on Aug 28, 2011 21:26:30 GMT -5
What we know so far, is that Alvin and the wich wanted Stormfly to become friendly with Hiccup, so they set up a situation that would cause her to come to the Vikings rescue. Stormfly did just has they had hoped. We can assume that Alvin and Witch is somehow very knowledgeable about this dragon. They seemed to know that she would help. How do they know so much about this dragon? That's still to come.
As for the SKullions, yes, they are considerd dragon class animals. They have dragon scales, but are meerly land dragons. HTTYD are full of may weird dragon class creatures, and this story has a few of them.
As for Stormfly being a Mood dragon, yes. A mood dragon is one of the rarest dragons, and it's even more rare for one to speak Norse. Their scales changes colors depending on their mood. This one, as we will learn, is compulsive liar, mostly because she likes to play pranks. Her playing pranks will probably be dealt with more in my next story. Whenever she lies, she turns violate, so she quickly becomes her own worse enemy.
For a fact, I can't tell you if Stormfly is bigger in comparison to Toothless. In the books, Toothless was not a Night Fury. The fan art of Stormfly seems to suggest that she might be a tiny bit bigger but only because she has a long, extended necks like typical dragons. Toothless does have an extended neck, like normal dragons. If it wasn't for the neck, they would be about the same size.
I'm not planning for Toothless and Stormfly to have children. Really, all that's going to happen is a crush. The books doesn't have the two dragons mating as of yet. In the movies, when she does appear, I doubt that they'll have the two dragons mating. Having little dragons in would just take away from the flow of the action the movie is building up. The relationship of these two dragons is going to remain open ended: which means, you'll never see or read whether these two dragons get serious or not, you're just going to have to imagine the future yourself.
As for ages of the dragons, neither the books or the movies really delve into ages of the dragons, and neither will I. She could be older, or Toothless may be older. Or they maybe about the same. There's no way of telling, and I think the Vikings relationships with the dragons are too new for them to yet understand aging of a dragon. For now, the two dragons just have different body shapes, she has a more defined snout, and an extended kneck, which gives her strength. Toothless does not have an extended neck, and has a body that is built more for speed and agility.
Even though your're reading this in english, they're actually speaking Norse, even in the movie. They can't have them actually speak norse in the animation and put captions, because this is an animation, and is supposed to attract younger people as well. The younger you are, the less likely you're going to like reading captions while the characters speak in their native language.
Just like you pointed out, he is speaking english, and he's reading a book written in Norse. It seems like that to us, but he's actually speaking Norse. THink of it like the Star Trek universal translator. The crews of the space ships can always understand languages from other aliens, like Klingong, Romulan, etc. But those aliens are not actually speaking engligh, but their native language. It's the universal translator that makes it sound like their speaking in English so the crew can understand them. This maybe be a weak comparison, but that's what's going on here. They're actually speaking in Norse, while we're hearing them in English. It's really the only way to do an animated movie.
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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 28, 2011 21:37:14 GMT -5
Lol yeah XD. It would be lame to see him come back every movie XD. Everyone's gonna be all like "WTF is this guy doing here???". It would just make people get tired of HTTYD, since it will always have the same enemy XD. Lol it's weird how in the books, Hiccup defeats him without the help of Toothless (I think XD). Is he like stronger in the book or something? XD. So, umm. You didn't answer my other question . Is Stormfly bein contoled by the 2 crazy people, or they just know that she's gonna accidentally do something that will help them? XD
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Post by PanzerGrenadier on Aug 29, 2011 6:51:54 GMT -5
Chapter 8 was pretty interesting!! hmmm what will happens next?
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Post by mrjop2 on Aug 29, 2011 19:30:25 GMT -5
In the books, I think Hiccup gets out of his messes due to him being pretty darn intelligent. If up against a dragon, he usually discovers its weakness and expoloits it just to survive. Of course, he has lots of friends helping him like Camicazi and Stormfly. Some of his misadventures are not of his making, and some are. Going treasure hunting definetly counts as his own making. Other times, Fishlegs is usually bumbling into trouble and Hiccup has to come and save him.
As for Alvin controling the dragon, that's exactly the question you should have by the end of the chapter. The reader, does not know, if the dragon can be trusted or not, or if she's being controled by Alvin or not. *Spoiler alert* (In the end, we find out that the dragon is trustworthy, and Alvin is using Hiccup and Astrid to set a trap for the dragon. Alvin has a personal grudge against the dragon for running away and refusing to help him in his conquest of the Roman Empire. He's going to this measure only because the dragon seems to like these Vikings. Otherwise, Alvin and the witch might just go ahead and kill everyone. So in a way, Stormfly is saving Hiccup and friends, and at the same time, Hiccup and friends are saving her.)
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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 29, 2011 19:40:43 GMT -5
Oh, so I think Alvin wabts to capture and control her as well, right? Lol at least he doesn't want Toothless . So cool thing about Hiccup in the books btw . Lol, and I just realized something. Stormfly IS a horrible lier XD. "I can Speak Dragonese and NORSE." WTF is she doing speaking English??? She just lied there and told them she could speak Norse when she isn't doing so, LOL! XD
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Post by mrjop2 on Aug 30, 2011 18:21:46 GMT -5
Actually, Alvin already tried to control her, but failed. So if he can't control her, he just wants to get rid of her now.
Again, all the characters here are speaking Norse. We're just reading it in english. Just like in the movie, all of them read and speak in Norse, we're just hearing english . Vikings could not speak english back then. Everything is translated to english, so she was not lying about that.
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Post by Toothless11 on Aug 30, 2011 22:08:17 GMT -5
Well that's crazy . Cant he just make the witch teleport her away? XD Lol and I already knew that they were speaking Norse . But it would be an epic fail if they weren't and she would still say that she can speak Norse and Dragonese XD. So if you look at it, in some way she's laying and in the other she's not XD.
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